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	<title>Comments on: The BileBlog, without the Bile</title>
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	<description>I am sick of simple. Things should be great!</description>
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		<title>By: Robert McIntosh</title>
		<link>http://gregluck.com/blog/archives/2004/12/the-bileblog-without-the-bile/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2004 02:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to agree with Cedric about people using JUnit beyond unit testing. You can see this in large part by all the functional extensions out there, especially the web ones. I often have to do some, shall we say non-JUnit-esque, stuff to get more complicated tests written, namely for framework stuff.
I have gone through his TestNG and plan to migrate to it very quickly (especially since it now runs on JDK1.4) because of its openness to non unit testing capabilities.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to agree with Cedric about people using JUnit beyond unit testing. You can see this in large part by all the functional extensions out there, especially the web ones. I often have to do some, shall we say non-JUnit-esque, stuff to get more complicated tests written, namely for framework stuff.<br />
I have gone through his TestNG and plan to migrate to it very quickly (especially since it now runs on JDK1.4) because of its openness to non unit testing capabilities.</p>
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		<title>By: jfc</title>
		<link>http://gregluck.com/blog/archives/2004/12/the-bileblog-without-the-bile/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>jfc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2004 01:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Greg; when I have correspond with Hani I found him to be teetering on professional.  I have been impressed.  He is obviously a bright guy and not some spewing youth who is angry but clueless. However, while I did enjoy Greg&#039;s bileless bile, it just was not the same.  The Bile is funny.  It is quite plesant to be able to laugh about our work sometimes.  I know that some people might get their feelings hurt.  But its funny.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Greg; when I have correspond with Hani I found him to be teetering on professional.  I have been impressed.  He is obviously a bright guy and not some spewing youth who is angry but clueless. However, while I did enjoy Greg&#8217;s bileless bile, it just was not the same.  The Bile is funny.  It is quite plesant to be able to laugh about our work sometimes.  I know that some people might get their feelings hurt.  But its funny.</p>
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		<title>By: BlogicBlog: View from the trenches</title>
		<link>http://gregluck.com/blog/archives/2004/12/the-bileblog-without-the-bile/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>BlogicBlog: View from the trenches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2004 13:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Link: The BileBlog, without the Bile&lt;/strong&gt;

Greg Luck&#039;s translation of BileBlog is in many ways better than the original. His own comments are great too. Can we have this translation as a permanent service?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Link: The BileBlog, without the Bile</strong></p>
<p>Greg Luck&#8217;s translation of BileBlog is in many ways better than the original. His own comments are great too. Can we have this translation as a permanent service?</p>
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		<title>By: Cedric</title>
		<link>http://gregluck.com/blog/archives/2004/12/the-bileblog-without-the-bile/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Cedric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2004 10:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that JUnit was designed for unit testing and nothing more, but everybody uses it for much more now (regression, functional, integration, etc...).  Take a look at TestNG (http://beust.com/testng) for a more comprehensive and innovative way to approach testing (any kind of testing, not just unit).
We just released version 2.0.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that JUnit was designed for unit testing and nothing more, but everybody uses it for much more now (regression, functional, integration, etc&#8230;).  Take a look at TestNG (<a href="http://beust.com/testng" rel="nofollow">http://beust.com/testng</a>) for a more comprehensive and innovative way to approach testing (any kind of testing, not just unit).<br />
We just released version 2.0.</p>
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